The Cisco Catalyst 9136 Access Point

Cisco Catalyst 9136AXI from an angle
Cisco Catalyst C9136AXI

The Catalyst 9136 is Cisco’s latest addition to the Catalyst 9100 AP line up, and is their first AP with Wi-Fi 6E (6GHz) capability. This is the big brother to the 9130, in pretty much every way. The Cisco Champions program allowed me to test the 9136, and I was pleasantly surprised when I first saw the AP. It has a modern and pleasing design, with a “hood bulge” across the top. It is also smaller and lighter than I expected it would be. Considering how many radios are inside this beast, the form factor is very impressive.

Cisco Catalyst 9136 multiple views
Cisco Catalyst 9136 Views
In case you don’t feel like reading, you can hear me talk about the 9136 in this video

Catalyst 9136 Radios

Let’s dive into how many radios are inside this AP:

  • Each of the Wi-Fi radios support DL/UL OFDMA and MU-MIMO
    • 2.4GHz: 4×4
    • 5GHz: 8×8 – At release, this radio is advertised as a single 8×8, but it is expected that in the future it will be able to split into two separate 4×4 5GHz radios like previous models.
    • 6GHz: 4×4 – At release, the AXI (internal antenna) model supports Low Power Indoor (LPI) Operation
  • 2.4GHz BLE IoT Radio
  • CleanAir/Scanning Radio

Since Cisco loaned me this AP, I couldn’t take it apart to see the inside. However, looking at the photos of the inside of the AP from the FCC test documentation, I counted 15 separate antenna elements within this AP (some antenna elements are dual-band).

Wired Connectivity and PoE

The Catalyst 9136 has two mGig (5Gbps max) uplink ports with dual PoE-In power redundancy. In critical deployments, this allows for splitting the connections between two stacked switches and the AP will remain powered on if one of the switches fails. Note that PoE redundancy will consume twice the PoE budget, as the switch(es) will reserve the full amount of power for both ports. I was really hoping we would be able to combine PoE between two 802.3at switch ports to achieve the hefty PoE requirements, but that is not the case.

Cisco Catalyst 9136 ports
Cisco Catalyst 9136 Ports

The PoE requirements are outlined in the chart below. I continue to be impressed that Cisco allows their APs to function (albeit, in very limited capacity) on 802.3af PoE. You would obviously not want to run this AP on 802.3af power in production, but it allows the AP to be staged and tested (on 2.4 and 5GHz) with only 14W of power. In order to gain full functionality, you need to provide the AP with 46.5W of 802.3bt PoE, which equates to a little over 48W of PoE at the switch itself.

Cisco Catalyst 9136 PoE requirements 802.3af 802.3at 802.3bt
Cisco Catalyst 9136 PoE Modes

Comparing the Catalyst 9136 with its Little Brother, the 9130

As an evolution of the Catalyst 9130, they share very similar specs for the 2.4 (4×4) and 5GHz (8×8) bands. But that’s where the similarities end. Obviously, the big change is the 9136 introduces the 6GHz band to the portfolio. It has two 5Gbps mGig ports, to the 9130’s one. The 9136 is about 1″ larger in length and width, with a smoother appearance. The 9136 doesn’t look much (if any) larger than a 9120 or 9130, at a glance. You have to place the two APs next to each other to really tell the 9136 is any larger than the 9130. The beveled edge around the top of the AP has also been removed. For comparison, here’s a family photo:

Cisco Catalyst 9136 vs 9130
Catalyst 9130 (left) and Catalyst 9136 (right)

Mounting Options

Cisco Catalyst 9136 underside
Catalyst 9136 Underside

The 9136 AP uses the same bracket as previous APs: The AIR-AP-BRACKET-1 and AIR-AP-BRACKET-2! It has the same rubber feet / mounting pegs that you’re probably familiar with if you’ve worked with any of Cisco’s APs in the last decade. I believe the first AP with this mount was the 1142/3502, but I could be wrong.

Catalyst 9136 Specifications

I’ve sprinkled most of the specs throughout this article, but I’ll list them here for easier reference

  • Radios
    • 2.4GHz – 4×4 (slot 0)
    • 5GHz – 8×8 (slot 1 and 2)
    • 6GHz – 4×4 (slot 3)
    • Dedicated IoT/BLE radio
    • Dedicated Scanning/CleanAir (2×2)
  • Wi-Fi Capabilities
    • 802.11ax
    • UL and DL OFDMA
    • MU-MIMO
    • 1024 QAM, with max PHY of 10.2Gbps
  • Dimensions
    • 9.9 x 9×9 x 2.2 in (25.1 x 25.1 x 5.6cm)
    • Weight: 3.5lbs
  • PoE
    • Redundant (dual) 802.3af/at/bt PoE-In
    • 46.5W required for full functionality
  • Ports
    • Dual 5Gbps mGig with redundant PoE-In
    • Console port
    • USB port with 9W power capability
  • Minimum Software Versions / Interoperability
    • Catalyst 9800: v17.7.1
    • DNA Center: v2.3.2
    • Prime Infrastructure: v3.10
    • CMX: v10.6.3-75
    • DNA Spaces Connector: v2.3.2
    • ISE: v2.6

Speed Tests and other New Challenges

Running speed tests on the 9136 proved to be more challenging than Wi-Fi speed tests usually are. Not because the AP is difficult to work with, but because you need to have all of your ducks in a row in order to achieve the speeds that these APs are capable of.

The first hurdle is you need to have the AP connected to an mGig port, connected at a rate of at least 2.5Gbps. Your speed test server must also be connected at least at that speed. That means, from a practical sense, this is really the first time mGig can show some real gains in the enterprise. Sure, with dual-5GHz and 80MHz channels + 2.4 clients you could exceed 1Gbps on a 3802, but how often do you run 80MHz channels in the enterprise? With the 9136, you can easily exceed 1Gbps with one client on just the 6GHz band. This is possible because 160MHz channels may actually be practical in some enterprise environments. Even if you run 80MHz, if you combine that with the 5GHz and 2.4GHz radios, you will likely exceed 1Gbps at the wire.

Second, I noticed that with the HTML5 speed test, certain browsers report better speeds than others. Firefox seemed to show the worst speeds of the bunch. Apparently these APs move enough bits that some browsers can’t actually keep up. I had seen this with wired 10Gbps speed tests in the past, but I didn’t expect it to impact these tests.

I was surprised to see that a couple-year-old laptop (which obviously didn’t have antennas intended for use with 6GHz) retrofitted with an Intel AX210 NIC did very well in the speed tests. My other test client was a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G, which for some reason had a harder time getting great speed test results. I’ve heard from others with the same device that theirs was testing even better than laptops, so I’m not sure what is up with my particular S21. I plan to continue testing with it for as long as I am allowed to keep the AP. I will update this if I learn any settings that improve the speed.

Here are a couple screenshots from the Galaxy S21 showing the Wi-Fi 6E Icon:

Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra connecting to Wi-Fi 6E
Galaxy S21 Status Bar Icon
Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra connecting to Wi-Fi 6E
Galaxy S21 SSID

On my Catalyst 9800, I noticed that having AVC enabled actually impacted the speeds I was able to achieve, by 10-20%. I don’t imagine this would be the case on a big enterprise 9800-40 or 9800-80, but I did see a difference in my environment.

Most of the time, I would see speeds in the neighborhood of 1500-1600Mbps, but occasionally I would see speeds north of 1800Mbps. I was unable to determine a correlation with the increased speeds. Usually the upstream speed was about 10% faster than the downstream speed, too.

Here are some of the results I got from the many speed tests I ran:

Wi-Fi 6E speed test
The best speed test result I achieved during testing
Cisco Catalyst 9136 speed test
One of the iPerf3 results. iPerf3 was more consistent than the HTML speed test, but never netted the fast results of the HTML speed test.
Wi-Fi 6E link speed
It’s just fun to see link speeds like these!

I ran some concurrent tests with multiple clients and saw what I would consider to be a standard combined rate for all of them, as long as the tests were running in the same direction at the same time. If one client was testing upstream while the other was testing downstream, the overall throughput suffered greatly. The same thing happens with 2.4 and 5GHz APs, so this is not unique to 6GHz or the 9136.

Caveats and Limitations

Firstly, and most disappointingly, this AP does not support Embedded Wireless Controller (EWC). It also cannot join another existing EWC AP.

Also, at launch this AP does not support Mesh mode. While this is probably not a huge deal, as it is an indoor AP, I’m sure there are folks that will be disappointed by this.

Catalyst 9136 Site Survey Mode

Due to the fact that this AP is not capable of EWC mode, Cisco came up with a “Site Survey Mode” that allows us Wi-Fi engineers to configure the AP to operate autonomously (pun intended) for AP-on-a-Stick site surveys. It is very simple to convert to (and from) site survey mode; the command “ap-type [site-survey/capwap]”. This mode will allow you to configure the channel, channel width, transmit power (currently represented in “Power level” numbers instead of dBm), SSID, data rates, and all the other essentials for conducting a site survey. Site Survey Mode presents itself with a simple, very AireOS-like GUI for the task:

Cisco Catalyst 9136 site survey mode
Site Survey Mode AP Info Screen
Cisco Catalyst 9136 site survey mode
Site Survey Mode Radio Configuration

Site Survey mode will allow you to connect to the AP over the air (OTA), and receive a DHCP address that can be used to connect to the AP GUI.

Final Thoughts

This is the most excited I’ve been to test a new AP in a very long time… maybe ever? There are so many exciting things about 6GHz, and to see the results in person is really something. To be granted 1.2GHz of new Wi-Fi spectrum (in the US) allows us so much opportunity to make Wi-Fi the primary connectivity for much more critical device types. This AP is an excellent first foot forward for Cisco in Wi-Fi 6E, and I am very impressed with this AP. With all the radios, application container, and site survey mode, it packs a serious punch. I’m disappointed about the lack of EWC support, but hopefully there is a greater plan for that use case that just isn’t being revealed yet.

This AP brought with it many firsts for me:

  • This is the first time I feel like mGig can really make a practical improvement in bandwidth to the AP
  • This is the first time I’ve had to work with PSCs and the different network discovery methods on 6GHz. It was a great learning experience for the field!
  • This is the first time I’ve seen an AP draw more than 40W of PoE
  • This is the first wireless speed test where I’ve been able to exceed 1Gbps (and by quite a wide margin)
  • This is the first time I’ve had to upgrade my operating system in order to be able to see/connect to an SSID. Old Windows 10 builds don’t support 6GHz. Who knew?!

Read the official Cisco Data Sheet for the Catalyst 9136 here:

9 thoughts on “The Cisco Catalyst 9136 Access Point

  1. Steve Lilley

    Great review Dave! From what I can see, the Low Power Indoor (LPI) rating still gives us similar power levels to what we had on 5GHz, which was a relief. Here’s hoping the 6GHz spectrum delivers us another couple decades of good WiFi!

    • Ig

      Can i use this type of Ap as standalone / autonomous or must be connected to a controller.

  2. ascheker13

    Thanks for the intro to the 9136s, Dave. I can’t wait to showcase this with 30-40 clients on WiFi 6E.

  3. Dave,
    Great Presentation! Looking forward to working with this model very soon. Does Cisco plan on making an external model?

    • Dave Benham

      No vendors can release external antenna models until the AFC solution is in place.

  4. Mack

    FYI Here’s what I’ve found in my testing PoE vs Radios running 17.9.2



    • Mack

      Quick correct to that
      5=1×1 (not 2×2)

  5. Rudy

    “5GHz: 8×8 – At release, this radio is advertised as a single 8×8, but it is expected that in the future it will be able to split into two separate 4×4 5GHz radios like previous models.”
    Looking for the release that supports two separate 4×4 5GHz radios – or is this still roadmapped. I looked at 17.10,x , 17.11, and 17.12 release notes but I did not see anything.
    Thank you!

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